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Rust Repair Advice

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Greetings all! I'm not dead and neither is Tomo-san! I just moved. Had the u-joint replaced recently, which wasn't expensive and VASTLY improved my car's drivablity. Next up on that front would be the shocks, but that's not for a while yet...

I moved to the coast, which means any minor rust problems Tomo had are now suddenly major. Biggest on the list is I have a hole in the trunk. Rust is most cancerous around the license plate light and the trunk latch, on the panel that holds the taillights, license plate, and such. Under the weather stripping, I have a hole which is letting rainwater into the trunk like a fountain. My smugness at having a flat tyre and a full-sized spare with a new tyre on it was dashed when I saw the Rust Soup my car was cooking up in the spare tyre well. 0.o

The lip that holds the trunk weather-stripping is rusty in about three places, with bubbling and cancer into the panel a bit.


So, I've been lassoing two different shops for quotes, one slightly more honest to my intuition than the other:

Shop 1: Wants to fabricate a fiberglass/glassfibre replacement for a good hunk of the panel, bonded with Bondo, naturally. Their quote is the cheaper solution (but a good hunk of change nevertheless).

Shop 2: Thinks they can **maybe** fabricate repairs in metal, but we're talking about three or four curves in the body panel that'll need redoing, so they aren't sure. Their recommendation is to find a new body panel and put that on. Their first option (if they figure it's actually doable) is more expensive and their second option is EVEN MORE pricy.


Naturally, I'm thinking repairing metal with actual metal is a better idea, but price aside, finding a panel for these rare little beasts is going to be a chore because I don't live in Mazda Heaven (that's Australia, evidently).

Is using fiberglass, especially on a second gen Capella/CB/First gen 626 even something I should bother with?


Furthermore, can anybody (most likely Rotated6_2) tell me where to find a back-wall-of-the-vehicle panel for a 1980 Mazda 626 Capella?

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Hey DR, avoid fibreglass/bondo like the plague!! That's just these guys way of telling you they are not interested in doing the job!:rolleyes::angry:

Find a workshop where the guys actually are craftsmen and take pride in their work!!!  Otherwise, the only way to learn is to have a go yourself.:thumbsup:

 

What something like this?:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

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Anyways..........This is NOS for a Series 2 - larger rear tail lights, but I think the section you need can be taken from it.

http://www.oldstockmazdaparts.com/en/product/57546/mazda-626capella-cb2-rear-panel

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15 hours ago, Rotated6_2 said:

Hey DR, avoid fibreglass/bondo like the plague!! That's just these guys way of telling you they are not interested in doing the job!:rolleyes::angry:

Find a workshop where the guys actually are craftsmen and take pride in their work!!!  Otherwise, the only way to learn is to have a go yourself.:thumbsup:

Yeah, I figured as much. I shall take your sage advice!

15 hours ago, Rotated6_2 said:

What something like this?:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Yeah, a bit like that only with less rust! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

15 hours ago, Rotated6_2 said:

Anyways..........This is NOS for a Series 2 - larger rear tail lights, but I think the section you need can be taken from it.

http://www.oldstockmazdaparts.com/en/product/57546/mazda-626capella-cb2-rear-panel

I'm just crazy enough to actually spring for that. :w00t: (Hope it stays on until payday!!)

How much trouble would it be to adapt Series 2 taillights to my car, if I get that panel? Would I really have to get new rear fenders for that? Much as I love my taillights, you can't get much more 80's than a taillight that's diced into cubes.

How much else is different on a Series 2 rear? I notice the lock's in a different place, would that be difficult to adapt? Any other fittings differences?
 

Additionally, can you point out where I could get a new trunk seal? Old one's tired and has just about had it.

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OE tail lights are no problem to get, except that you will have the proper orange flasher lens as opposed to US spec full red lenses!

I really do not like the S2 tail lights - too big and ugly!:no:

 

I will vouch for this company and the boot seals.  Not OE but excellent aftermarket product.  I have bought numerous parts from them for me and overseas colleagues.

http://www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au/MAZDA 1978-82 626 SEDAN.htm

 

Rear of an S1:

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Rear of an S2:

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From the pics:

If you change the rear beaver panel to S2, then you will need to modify each corner to fit the lights and find the tail lights - that is all.

You do not need the rear boot lid - they fit both cars but you will notice S1 has a small cutout along the lower lip, S2 is dead straight across.

 

 

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18 hours ago, Rotated6_2 said:

OE tail lights are no problem to get, except that you will have the proper orange flasher lens as opposed to US spec full red lenses!

I really do not like the S2 tail lights - too big and ugly!:no:

I think I've struck on some MASSIVE luck:

http://www.oldstockmazdaparts.com/en/product/96558/mazda-626-hardtop-rear-panel

Is this the correct panel for Series 1? ...Don't tell me the coupes have a different back panel from the sedans. :blink:

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On 4/21/2018 at 2:18 PM, mzd626 said:

Wow! Excellent resource! :drool: Definitely going to come in handy, that is. Thanks for that link too!

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I saw that one too, BUT, seeing the 8239 P/No threw me, and I could not find a cross reference to it.  My Aussie spec S2 Mazda Parts Catalogue (Apr 83 edition) shows the prefix as a GA06-70-750, and my Japanese S2 Mazda Parts Catalogue (Jan 84 edition) shows it as a G001-70-750.  Go figure on the part numbers when they are the same!:blink::rolleyes:

 

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On 4/23/2018 at 2:06 AM, Rotated6_2 said:

I saw that one too, BUT, seeing the 8239 P/No threw me, and I could not find a cross reference to it.  My Aussie spec S2 Mazda Parts Catalogue (Apr 83 edition) shows the prefix as a GA06-70-750, and my Japanese S2 Mazda Parts Catalogue (Jan 84 edition) shows it as a G001-70-750.  Go figure on the part numbers when they are the same!:blink::rolleyes:

 

Happy New Year! I'm reanimating this dead thread mostly because... I still need that back panel! Life kept getting in the way and all that, you know how it is. (Hey, I did mend the shocks and the u-joint and other important mechanical bits like that!) (I really need to post more pictures of my adventures...)

 

I've **finally** gotten into a position to actually get the job done now... only I've made a startling discovery:

https://www.dijkgraaf-uddel.nl/a-51525974/plaatwerk/achterpaneel-mazda-classic/

^ This is still up and while that's still an awesome price, they'll only ship inside the Netherlands (near as I can tell what with juggling Google Translate)... which is agony because it seems to be the only place in the known galaxy that has what I need for sale (as usual, my own country's sites just want to sell me a nice car cover :3 ).

These guys seem to be gone:

http://www.oldstockmazdaparts.com

which also sucks because I can't even ask if they'll ship to the wild and crazy America.

 

So, before I email the first site and (through the miracle of the Google Translate) beg for mercy about shipping some Hiroshiman metal here, I've got to ask: is there any where else to look at all?! Many thanks!

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Join the RX626 FB page, young fella. We're a good bunch of RWD 626 enthusiasts from all over the world!!!!  https://www.facebook.com/groups/266014573758441/?ref=bookmarks 

Make contact with Stefan Neuteboom.  He shut the Oldstockmazdaparts web page down because he was being charged squillions to keep it running.

He still has the parts, just contact him direct.  And I know from experience, he is happy to send parts all over the world!:thumbsup:

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3 hours ago, Rotated6_2 said:

Join the RX626 FB page, young fella. We're a good bunch of RWD 626 enthusiasts from all over the world!!!!  https://www.facebook.com/groups/266014573758441/?ref=bookmarks 

Make contact with Stefan Neuteboom.  He shut the Oldstockmazdaparts web page down because he was being charged squillions to keep it running.

He still has the parts, just contact him direct.  And I know from experience, he is happy to send parts all over the world!:thumbsup:

Wow! Why didn't you tell me about that sooner?! :hyper:

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All you have to do is ask.:lol::lol::lol:

Except for the US parts wise, I have contacts all over the world.:thumbsup:

 

 

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