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bidderman1969

Kia Sportage With The Fe Mazda Engine

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hi guys, i desperately need help!

will copy and posts stuff i have asked online, as i really cant retype everything

the kia is idling like a bag of **** at present after a full service, and after i finally got the rocker cover gasket on and fired it up, it idled rough with a popping sound at random times, on a run its fine, dad said it sounded like a spark plug problem and probably its a spark plug gap

Kia Sportage 2000cc, 1996, engine code is FE

changed plugs to NGKs

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http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=HDV_0092.mp4

cant quite hearing the "popping" clearly for some reason, but you can just make it out if you crank up the volume a bit

driving me ****ing nuts this is

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right, update.............

changed to NGK's, started fine, from stone dead cold, then went back to as before as soon as about 20 - 30 secs later, so, probably coil pack(s)?

when revs are up, it does run smoother on the NGK's i must admit

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small update, bought a coil pack, has 2 but only bought one as i dont want to be buying them willy nilly for nothing, fitted, and it started perfectly, then after a minute or 2 it stated doing it again, but only about half as much, so guessing the packs are/were breaking down, may even be originals, so ordered another one and hopefully it should be sorted, fingers crossed!

also did a compression check, starting from furthest away from the front working back, it was 12, 11, 10, and 13 so not too bad i suppose, all in the green part of the scale

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where im upto now....................

sick to ****ing death with this ****ing thing now. replaced both coil packs now, it started ok, then went back to as before after about 2 mins, unplugged the MAF sensor and it ran well for about 4-5 mins, then back to the same thing again, unplugged the CTS, no difference, i just wanna burn it now and claim on the insurance to be honest

help pppppppppppppppppppppppllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease

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Obviously we're not KIA enthusiasts but a lot of general car knowledge can be transfered over to just about any car. If the car starts to act up after 2 minutes that sounds to me like a classic case of a bad O2 sensor as that's about how long it takes for the car to warm. When the car warms up the O2 sensors kick in and the ECU starts reading data from the O2 sensors instead of it's default startup parameters. It could be other things associated with the car reaching operating temperature like some kind of overheating issue but to me smells ripe of a bad O2 sensor. Since I know nothing about KIA's or even what year yours is, is it possible to pull codes? Maybe there is an O2 sensor error code. In any case you'll want to get with the KIA guys to look up the exact specs for your O2 sensor. Most do a (0.0v-0.2v) to (0.8v-1.0v) switching cycle. It should switch back and forth about once every second from 0v to 1.0v as an example.

Yes, once the O2 sensor reaches operating temp it will cause the engine to run very poorly. If it runs poorly from a cold start before having the O2 sensor enter the loop then it could be something else. So it's important not to just go out and buy a new O2 sensor. Diagnose the issue, gather evidence, and replace the correct culprit.

The FE was in the 3rd gen 626's not 93-02. So I'll move this to the appropriate category so you're more likely to get help from other FE owners.

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How are your spark plug wires ?

The o2 sensor will show an issue is there is a missfire. You say you've changed the plugs and two of the four coils, but if one of the plug wires is dead it'll be causing a problem. They dont last forever (unless you get metal cored ones, and then they'll outlast the car in most cases)

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cheers guys, i had a 626 coupe a few years ago (in the UK btw) and this shares the same engine that was in that car i believe, cracking car that was too, shame the tinworm got to it in the end ;)

found the problem at long last, the PCV got damaged when the rocker cover was removed, ;) so will have to get a new one, but at longgggggggggggggg last, she's running great again

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Awesome, great to hear. I would have never guessed the PCV. Will try to remember that one. Good job.

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Last time I was in the junk yard I noticed a kia sportage with a 2.0, I'm using the hood release on my mazda right now. Anyway, kia is using all the old ford/mazda designs, like the aspires motor/tranny and escorts/miata/capri trannys. I know for a fact that the first generation MTX Rio transmissions will bolt up to a B-series mazda/ford engine, it's a newer version of the old G series, supposedly tougher. The struts and springs are a direct bolt on upgrade for a festiva or aspire front end. I would venture to guess that the 1.3L and 2.0's from rios and sportages would swap too. Granted there are subtle differences, the 1st gen trannys have different gear ratios, and I'd say there are some differences in the heads, maybe even compression, and I don't know if heads/parts would swap directly from a mazda/ford to a kia, but there's definately alot of potential for anyone willing to take a chance that has a little fabrication skills and a will.

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Yeah lots of guys use KIA FE3s and mix n match parts from the Mazda version. most bits are interchageable except things like the KIA has an 8- bolt crank and flywheel compared with the Mazda's 6.

Other than that its mostly RWD Vs FWD differences, spark control and delivery.

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When I acquired mine - similar symptoms - turns out wrong plugs were used. Changed to NGK BPR5ES and the issues resolved.

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